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obama, what happened? did biden come in and tell you he bet his life savings on you getting reelected but he needs mitt to cover the spread? you have to keep it close, bob. these are bad guys i'm dealing with. can you really not change washington from the inside? i thought we were in charge of the hope and you were in charge of change. no one wants a coach coming in at halftime and saying, oh, that was rough. anybody have an idea. >> top of the hour. welcome back to "morning joe." you look nice today. he's awesome. that was really good. >> do you have your emmies with you? >> i don't have any actual e emmys. >> and joining us onset, david axelrod. >> great to be here. >> how did mark do? >> you didn't hear? four of them. and still a tuxedo. >> how did he do? >> four. >> he took someone else's. there are four that are his. there's a fifth there. >> it's a loaner. >> a lot to talk to you about, david axelrod. mr. obama's hazy agenda for a second term. an acceptance speech on the state of the union laundry tw
obama, what happened? did biden come in and tell you he bet his life savings on you getting reelected but he needs mitt to cover the spread? you have to keep it close, bob. these are bad guys i'm dealing with. can you really not change washington from the inside? i thought we were in charge of the hope and you were in charge of change. no one wants a coach coming in at halftime and saying, oh, that was rough. anybody have an idea. >> top of the hour. welcome back to "morning...
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obama this time. hillary next time. >>> what could make wisconsin governor scott walker become pro-u.n.? >> the packers play it at the goal line as wilson scrambles to keep it alive. the game's final play, a wilson loft to the end zone. which is fumbled by tate with jennings simultaneous. who has it? who do they give it to? touchdown! >> well, one result of that, the anti-union pro-packers governor of wisconsin scott walker wants the union refs back on the field after the substitute refs gave the catch in that game last night to seattle. >>> let me finish with this republican plan. to keep blacks from voting. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> take a look this head-scratcher of a poll number from the new cnbc poll. 55% say the economy is worse. just 22% say it's better. yet when asked which candidate is better for the economy, 43% say president obama. 34%, only 34%, say mitt romney. put that together, those sets of numbers. >>> welcome back to "hardball." with just six weeks to go to
obama this time. hillary next time. >>> what could make wisconsin governor scott walker become pro-u.n.? >> the packers play it at the goal line as wilson scrambles to keep it alive. the game's final play, a wilson loft to the end zone. which is fumbled by tate with jennings simultaneous. who has it? who do they give it to? touchdown! >> well, one result of that, the anti-union pro-packers governor of wisconsin scott walker wants the union refs back on the field after the...
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for obama, no. but they're leaning to obama. those votes are up for grabs. just as the leaners romney are up for grabs. it's more than just the people who say they're undecided. those leaners can be persuaded by debate performance. and let me tell you, look at governor romney's performance last week in education nation, at our station, at the clinton global initiative, he sounded good, he talked policy, he was on his game. anybody who thinks this is going to be a walk-over for the president is wrong. governor romney is very strong. and he has the advantage, when he gets into this, he looks and sounds very presidential, no ifs, ands or buts about it. >> robert traynham, there came a point late in the race where republican supporters really thought the thing was over and they started pulling back, they started pulling money away from bob dole and they started investing it into those senate candidates. do you think this is something, do you think there's a chance we might see that this time around? tha
for obama, no. but they're leaning to obama. those votes are up for grabs. just as the leaners romney are up for grabs. it's more than just the people who say they're undecided. those leaners can be persuaded by debate performance. and let me tell you, look at governor romney's performance last week in education nation, at our station, at the clinton global initiative, he sounded good, he talked policy, he was on his game. anybody who thinks this is going to be a walk-over for the president is...
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obama this time. hillary next time. >>> what could make wisconsin governor scott walker become pro-u.n.? >> the packers play it at the goal line as wilson scrambles to keep it alive. the game's final play, a wilson loft to the end zone. which is fumbled by tate with jennings simultaneous. who has it? who do they give it to? touchdown! >> well, one result of that, the anti-union pro-packers governor of wisconsin scott walker wants the union refs back on the field after the substitute refs gave the catch in that game last night to seattle. >>> let me finish with this republican plan. to keep blacks from voting. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. ey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup plan, in case i get hit by a meteor. wow, your hair looks great. didn't realize they did photoshop here. hey, good call on those mugs. can't let 'em see what you're drinking. you know, i'm glad we're both running a nice, clean r
obama this time. hillary next time. >>> what could make wisconsin governor scott walker become pro-u.n.? >> the packers play it at the goal line as wilson scrambles to keep it alive. the game's final play, a wilson loft to the end zone. which is fumbled by tate with jennings simultaneous. who has it? who do they give it to? touchdown! >> well, one result of that, the anti-union pro-packers governor of wisconsin scott walker wants the union refs back on the field after the...
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it's enough that i'm not barack obama. it's enough that i'm a business guy who is running for president and people should just vote for me because they have no reason to like obama. if he goes in with that attitude, i frankly think that's a loser. i think he has to go in and talk about the future and if he's going to talk about the future and what kind of country he wants us to have, he's got to be specific about these concrete issues. what are you going to do with medicare? >> hold on for one second, though, obama has not laid out a specific plan. obama has put out a cap for medicare, but he hasn't said do you want to raise the eligibility age that you talked about with john boehner. we can assume he will, but he hasn't said so. >> he has a specific plan for medicare, you may say it's not enough, not going to work, but he has a specific plan for medicare involving this thing called the ipad and a lot of things we're not going to get into. >> no, that's not the totality of his plan. he said he's going to do more but he has
it's enough that i'm not barack obama. it's enough that i'm a business guy who is running for president and people should just vote for me because they have no reason to like obama. if he goes in with that attitude, i frankly think that's a loser. i think he has to go in and talk about the future and if he's going to talk about the future and what kind of country he wants us to have, he's got to be specific about these concrete issues. what are you going to do with medicare? >> hold on...
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with president obama. we're going to make sure that we deliver the state of ohio just as we did in 2008 and help our president make history again. the president is standing up for all folks and he doesn't have to say one thing before wealthy donors and another thing before poor and working and middle class folks. he is about building from the middle out and making sure that everybody has the opportunity to live their measure of the american treem. we will know the tree by the fruit that it bears and the president has been bearing righteous fruit to make sure that america is for everybody. >> that is a good point about him being the default candidate. because the truth is the republicans, it's not like they had someone who was better to choose from. what are you going to do with gingrich or santorum. some of these people would be behind by 30 points at this stage of the game. ann romney, we're going to do a little time travel now. we're going to show you what ann romney is going to say an hour and a half fr
with president obama. we're going to make sure that we deliver the state of ohio just as we did in 2008 and help our president make history again. the president is standing up for all folks and he doesn't have to say one thing before wealthy donors and another thing before poor and working and middle class folks. he is about building from the middle out and making sure that everybody has the opportunity to live their measure of the american treem. we will know the tree by the fruit that it...
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president obama spoke to the u.n. general assembly, follow that, abc aired an interview he and the first lady taped for "the view." the meeting of the united nations general assembly has put foreign policy front and center. president obama used the ait tack on the u.s. consulate in libya and the death on ambassador stevens to make the case for a broader philosophy regarding the future of the relations between the middle east and the west. >> the events of the last two weeks also speaks to the need for all of us to honestly address the tensions between the west and the arab world that is moving towards democracy. >> while he made clear that the video that sparked the violence was not reflective of american values the president defended the u.s. response and underscored that free speech is essential to prosperity and to peace. >> as president of our country, and commander in chief of our military, i accept that people are going to call me awful things every day. and i will always defend their right to do so. >> the pres
president obama spoke to the u.n. general assembly, follow that, abc aired an interview he and the first lady taped for "the view." the meeting of the united nations general assembly has put foreign policy front and center. president obama used the ait tack on the u.s. consulate in libya and the death on ambassador stevens to make the case for a broader philosophy regarding the future of the relations between the middle east and the west. >> the events of the last two weeks also...
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obama and the arab states derived from an obama character trait. he's not built many personal relationships with foreign leaders. "he's not good with personal relationships. that's not what interests him" said one united states diplomat. but in the middle east, those relationships are essential. the lack of them deprives d.c. of the inability to influence leadership decisions. that, that is at the core, i think, of a lot of what we're talking about. tony blair will be on later. when you speak with tony blair, you can extract with him that he has developed personal relationships with leaders in the middle east. it seems this president has been unable to do that. and it's critical. >> he hasn't tried just like he hasn't tried like a lot of members on the hill in both parties. we've been hearing for several years that this president will go to a country, give a speech and then leave and i've heard from one diplomat after another it's as if he thinks the speech itself is the ends. and not a means to the ends, which, of course, is completely opposite of
obama and the arab states derived from an obama character trait. he's not built many personal relationships with foreign leaders. "he's not good with personal relationships. that's not what interests him" said one united states diplomat. but in the middle east, those relationships are essential. the lack of them deprives d.c. of the inability to influence leadership decisions. that, that is at the core, i think, of a lot of what we're talking about. tony blair will be on later. when...
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, whether that be the mischaracterization of obama's medication plan or obama who killed simpson/bowles. i think obama is going to be able to say, you know what, let's do not this, mitt. let's not point fingers at one another. let's rise above it and each tell the american people what we are capable of. >> let me ask you this, alicia, because we just had nbc wall street journal marist poll release new figures. president is up seven points in new hampshire, up by two points in nevada and north carolina. and in a poll released yesterday, up ten points in ohio, nine points in florida. up by 12 points in pennsylvania. is this why we are seeing these desperate measures now? clean across the board, every poller is saying he's up, up, up. >> he's up and it's because of the various strategies because of the romney campaign have failed to work. initially they were running against a bad barack obama who wasn't a good guy and then he became a good guy who was just a little in over his head and couldn't get the economy back on track and now they are trying to make him a dishonest guy. they have see
, whether that be the mischaracterization of obama's medication plan or obama who killed simpson/bowles. i think obama is going to be able to say, you know what, let's do not this, mitt. let's not point fingers at one another. let's rise above it and each tell the american people what we are capable of. >> let me ask you this, alicia, because we just had nbc wall street journal marist poll release new figures. president is up seven points in new hampshire, up by two points in nevada and...
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obama, and brought your date. >> i brought him with me. he had a few minutes in his schedule. >> you know, i told -- i told folks, i'm just supposed to be eye candy here four guys. sleep train's inventory clearance sale is ending soon. save 10%, 20%, even 35% on a huge selection of simmons and sealy clearance mattresses. get 2 years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic. even get free delivery! sleep train stacks the savings high to keep the prices low. but hurry, the inventory clearance sale is ending soon. superior service, best selection, lowest price, guaranteed. ♪ sleep train ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ comments would die down. well, they haven't. just wait until you hear what president clinton has to say. that's next. ♪ anything, yes, i'd do anything ♪ ♪ anything for you ♪ ♪ something to me ♪ that nobody else could do voters, but a new poll has them trailing obama by eight point. earlier governor romney tried cozying up to bill clinton, but clinton says romney's caught on camera moment will be a prob
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one trashes obama. this one brilliantly i think celebrates the potential of a certain election result. give me your sense, how you got into this idea of even thinking about the next four years given all our focus here at "hardball" and elsewhere on what's going to happen in six weeks. >> because he, the president, has been thinking about it for four years already, and if you have watched him carefully, you have seen he's always played a long game, and part of that long game was always re-election. most presidents deal with the middle east in the last two years. he started his first go. he inherited the worst recession but he pushed through health care reform at the very beginning. he knew these things would take time, and so he set it up in a way to enable the big payoff to come later, which is a high-risk/high-reward strategy. on the debt, of course, the republicans went nuts and prevented him from getting a sensible grand bargain on this, but, again, he set up the debt ceiling fiasco so we have seques
one trashes obama. this one brilliantly i think celebrates the potential of a certain election result. give me your sense, how you got into this idea of even thinking about the next four years given all our focus here at "hardball" and elsewhere on what's going to happen in six weeks. >> because he, the president, has been thinking about it for four years already, and if you have watched him carefully, you have seen he's always played a long game, and part of that long game was...
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mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? open enrollment is here. the time to choose your medicare coverage begins october 15th and ends december 7th. so call to enroll in a plan that could give you the benefits and stability you're looking for, an aarp medicarecomplete plan insured through unitedhealthcare. what makes it complete? it can combines medicare parts a and b, which is your hospital and doctor coverage with part d prescription drug coverage, and more, all in one simple plan starting at a zero dollar monthly premium -- no more than what you already pay for medicare part b. an aarp medicarecomplete plan offers you benefits like an annual physical, preventive screenings and immunizations for a $0 copay. you'll also have the flexibility to change doctors from a network of providers dedicated to helping you stay healthy. there's more. when you enroll in an aarp medicarecomplete pl
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obama has laid out specific proposals. he's had a job for months now, but mitt romney has been very vague about his proposals for helping the middle class. >> you know what, this strikes me, just thinking now, listening to cynthia, he seems to are been running this campaign for the last six months as someone who expected the voters would want him. not that he would have to sell himself, his plan, his ideas. that the voters would want him as a white knight, coming in and rescuing the company, that is, the u.s. economy. and he didn't have to do much beyond that. as he's finding out, that's not the way the game plays if you want to be leader of the united states. >> there are chinks in his armor, by the way. he didn't count on the knight from arkansas showing up either, bill clinton. >> sir lancelot. >> sir lancelot showed up in the fields and he's not the guy to go jausing with. thank you, to complete the last reference to that metaphor. >>> coming up, more right wing vitriol. newt gingrich said president obama isn't a real
obama has laid out specific proposals. he's had a job for months now, but mitt romney has been very vague about his proposals for helping the middle class. >> you know what, this strikes me, just thinking now, listening to cynthia, he seems to are been running this campaign for the last six months as someone who expected the voters would want him. not that he would have to sell himself, his plan, his ideas. that the voters would want him as a white knight, coming in and rescuing the...
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vote for barack obama? he had so many chances during the campaign to carve out his own identity, which i think is closer to the real mitt romney. >> mark halperin? >> two events here in the city. he talked about his roles in the city. very educational. very educational show with brian. showed that he's a policy guy, cared about issues as the governor dug into him. but that mitt romney does not get very much attention and he doesn't put it on display very often. and it's now -- the thing he has to become is a fighter. he has to have guys like joe scarborough look at him every day and say he's fighting for the party, for the country, and fighting to turn the country around. i don't see that but if he doesn't see that. em's going to be very hard to keep the party behind him. >> what's coming up next, mika? >> coming up, from the nuclear tension in iran to the war in syria, can the u.n. security council come up with any solution? >>> "guys with kids" co-created by jimmy fallon. we'll talk with one of the stars.
vote for barack obama? he had so many chances during the campaign to carve out his own identity, which i think is closer to the real mitt romney. >> mark halperin? >> two events here in the city. he talked about his roles in the city. very educational. very educational show with brian. showed that he's a policy guy, cared about issues as the governor dug into him. but that mitt romney does not get very much attention and he doesn't put it on display very often. and it's now -- the...
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president obama will address the u.n. jen assembly. the president's fourth speech to the body. 18 month civil war in syria and a series of confrontational statements by none other than iran's president who declared monday that israel has no roots in the middle east. today's speech comes in the aftermath of the u.s. consulate in ben ghazi which killed four americans. this is the president on libya, by the way, just one year ago. >> 42 years of tyranny was ended in six months, from tripoli to misrata and ben ghazi, today, libya is free. yesterday, the leaders of a new libya took their rightful place besides and this week, the united states is reopening our embassy in tripoli. >> that was one year ago today. in his speech today, here is what we do know the president will say today, quote. we must aferm that our future will be determined by people like chris stevens. he recommit the united states to the values of the arab spring and aspirations of, quote, people everywhere who long for the freedom to determine their destiny and we will see
president obama will address the u.n. jen assembly. the president's fourth speech to the body. 18 month civil war in syria and a series of confrontational statements by none other than iran's president who declared monday that israel has no roots in the middle east. today's speech comes in the aftermath of the u.s. consulate in ben ghazi which killed four americans. this is the president on libya, by the way, just one year ago. >> 42 years of tyranny was ended in six months, from tripoli...
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and that has to do with obama's policies. he promised a lot, but he hasn't delivered on the economy. and that's really been the message that american crossroads has been bringing to the american people as well as a lot of republican outside groups. so i don't think there's any kind of conspiracy going on. i think a lot of people are looking at the president's record. they're looking at the promises that he made. they're seeing a disconnect between those two things. and they're looking elsewhere for their votes. >> let's talk about message because another somewhat critical article in politico talks about the lack of focus in messaging. oftentimes the message from republican groups and the romney campaign is not consistent. i know having gone to some of the battleground states and you see all these different messages, and it can make your head spin. they're on a lot of different topics. could the super pacs be hurting the candidates? i'm talking on both sides by muddling the campaigns' message? >> one of the issues with the cam
and that has to do with obama's policies. he promised a lot, but he hasn't delivered on the economy. and that's really been the message that american crossroads has been bringing to the american people as well as a lot of republican outside groups. so i don't think there's any kind of conspiracy going on. i think a lot of people are looking at the president's record. they're looking at the promises that he made. they're seeing a disconnect between those two things. and they're looking elsewhere...
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do you think paul ryan talking about president obama's foreign policy will move people from obama to romney? >> i'm not -- i don't think paul ryan, it matters very much. but i do twhink have a sequence of things that are going to happen here and these ling up the first two things. mitt romney has a paramount goal. he must get past the debate and still have life in this campaign. if he can get through the first debate and convince republicans hi he's still in the race, not abandon him as a lost cause, have a sense that he's still in the game, he then has some options how to spend the last 35 days of the campaign. on foreign policy, the economy, prosecuting the president. this all dpebepends on wednesda night. if he walks out with the world cob cluned that this race is over, the conservatives, the money, you're bob dole, we're going to vote on the house and senate. he's got to get past that first. >>> just before the two candidates scare off in the debate. abc news poll, 49% of likely voters say they would vote for president obama and 47% say they would vote for mitt romney. those numb
do you think paul ryan talking about president obama's foreign policy will move people from obama to romney? >> i'm not -- i don't think paul ryan, it matters very much. but i do twhink have a sequence of things that are going to happen here and these ling up the first two things. mitt romney has a paramount goal. he must get past the debate and still have life in this campaign. if he can get through the first debate and convince republicans hi he's still in the race, not abandon him as a...
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that's why obama picked biden. candidate obama had a tendency to ramble in the debates, got better during mccain one on ones. while romney did well in this season's gop debates, had rough performances, bet you $10,000 he did. romney performances, the unspoken body language that the camera captured, they were brutal against ted kennedy. ivy league will enjoy biden versus ryan more. trust me. >>> turning back to the brand new battleground polls. there's a different pattern emerging, president obama is ahead in new hampshire, tighter in nevada and north carolina. joining me, director of the marist poll. good to see you in person. >> welcome to the home of the new york yankees. >> you're going to blow the playoff run. >> i am worried. >> we want the beltway series in washington. we have been looking at this as sort of the generic, the general all nine states. what is your take away? >> i think what you're seeing is a very big difference when obama is 45, 46 as months ago when everything was 44, now he gets to 48, 49, 5
that's why obama picked biden. candidate obama had a tendency to ramble in the debates, got better during mccain one on ones. while romney did well in this season's gop debates, had rough performances, bet you $10,000 he did. romney performances, the unspoken body language that the camera captured, they were brutal against ted kennedy. ivy league will enjoy biden versus ryan more. trust me. >>> turning back to the brand new battleground polls. there's a different pattern emerging,...
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>> do you know that mccain beat obama on election day, and obama got it in early voting. >> things can change overnight with a great debate performance, but again, mark hallprin, time is running out. >> he's still behind in too many places to win. he doesn't have as of today an obvious electoral college path, and he's not going to make it up on the ground with enthusiasm anymore. >> let's bring it kristen welker at the white house for you. by the end of the mow, 30 states are casting early absentee ballots, that includes five battleground states. is the president's team confident they can keep governor romney from closing the gaps as we see in the polls as of today? >> good morning, alex. i think the obama team is confident but they're cautious. they're six weeks until election day. that's a lifetime when it comes to politics. folks have already started to turn out for early voting. we have a graphic of what we've seen so far. it shows that obama campaign supporters are actually leading right now in terms of voter turnout as compared to romney supporters. i've spoken with officials wit
>> do you know that mccain beat obama on election day, and obama got it in early voting. >> things can change overnight with a great debate performance, but again, mark hallprin, time is running out. >> he's still behind in too many places to win. he doesn't have as of today an obvious electoral college path, and he's not going to make it up on the ground with enthusiasm anymore. >> let's bring it kristen welker at the white house for you. by the end of the mow, 30...
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obama needs to be on his toes. you know, i just think he can anticipate most of what romney is going to say, but he needs to have a few zingers of his own to make sure he gets his share of sound bites in the newscasts that follow. >> based on previous debate performances, how would you characterize governor romney's style versus the president's style? >> romney is good on the attack, i think. as i just indicated, i mean, when he needed to flash the knife against rick perry in that one debate i'm particularly thinking of, he really did it. he's good at that, and he's not going to back down. you know, a lot of this also comes down to interpersonal dynamics and how they play off each other and what their body chemistry says and so on and so forth. romney was pretty aggressive in a lot of republican debates, interrupting people, leaning forward, that sort of thing. don't think you can do that with the president of the united states. >> there was also, of course, that famous bet in south carolina. >> yeah, right. >> mic
obama needs to be on his toes. you know, i just think he can anticipate most of what romney is going to say, but he needs to have a few zingers of his own to make sure he gets his share of sound bites in the newscasts that follow. >> based on previous debate performances, how would you characterize governor romney's style versus the president's style? >> romney is good on the attack, i think. as i just indicated, i mean, when he needed to flash the knife against rick perry in that...
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now and then the president says i'm the grandfather of obama care. i don't think he meant that as a compliment, but i'll take it. this was during my primary. we thought it might not be helpful. >> well, there you have it, mark, and then john. speaking to a straight news reporter for nbc, ron allen, he says something that's supportive of what he did in massachusetts. then before a partisan crowd, he takes it back and lashes out at obama care. and then before a group he assumes to be a bit more liberal, he goes back in favor of it again saying, i take that not as a compliment, but i'll accept it anyway. and there you go, what is this guy? he's like a bobble head. >> well, i've not been as dubious about the notion of you could be for a certain type of policy at the state level but not think it's a good idea for washington to do it, but when you extend the rhetoric to the morality of covering all children and the morality of universal health care, then i think it's a harder case to make, and, you know, governor romney is getting a lot of criticism in the
now and then the president says i'm the grandfather of obama care. i don't think he meant that as a compliment, but i'll take it. this was during my primary. we thought it might not be helpful. >> well, there you have it, mark, and then john. speaking to a straight news reporter for nbc, ron allen, he says something that's supportive of what he did in massachusetts. then before a partisan crowd, he takes it back and lashes out at obama care. and then before a group he assumes to be a bit...
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better than barack obama. i mean, barack obama's speech w was -- i thought he delivered it very well but bill clinton was a country lawyer and he -- >> it could explain. >> he went item by item and blew up romney's arguments and built up barack obama's arguments. >> bill clinton heads to new hampshire next week to campaign for the president because he is that useful. what do you think, mr. speaker of mr. mitt romney's chances as things stand right now? how do you feel about it? >> i think he has to have a very strong debate. i think they're whistling past the grave yard. >> is that another way of saying he is not doing so well right now? >> sure. i think everybody i talk to agrees he's had two and a half very tough weeks. and i do agree. i think they started with the clinton speech and then they got compounded by all of the stuff that happened. on the other hand, where i think i would disagree and go back to my partisan roots is clinton really described a terrific obama if only he existed. >> right. >> but the
better than barack obama. i mean, barack obama's speech w was -- i thought he delivered it very well but bill clinton was a country lawyer and he -- >> it could explain. >> he went item by item and blew up romney's arguments and built up barack obama's arguments. >> bill clinton heads to new hampshire next week to campaign for the president because he is that useful. what do you think, mr. speaker of mr. mitt romney's chances as things stand right now? how do you feel about...
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carmona is for obama's health care law. flake's against obama's health care law. >> joining me now is dr. richard carmona, democratic candidate for senate in arizona and the former surgeon general of the united states. doctor, nice to meet you. great to have you here on "the ed show" tonight. i'll go right to it. health care is in your wheelhouse. you are the expert. he's going after you, your opponent's going after you on obama care. but you have been critical of health care in general on both sides. where do you stand on all of this? >> well, as surgeon general, ed, i was very career, and i still feel the same way, as a physician, as a professor, when i responsibility for the nation's health. it was a real problem that our nation didn't have a system that provided access to health care for all, and we need a robust business plan to be able to support that. so that's where i stand and i'll never waiver from the fact that i believe that every american should have access to a basic set of health care benefits. >> well, you'v
carmona is for obama's health care law. flake's against obama's health care law. >> joining me now is dr. richard carmona, democratic candidate for senate in arizona and the former surgeon general of the united states. doctor, nice to meet you. great to have you here on "the ed show" tonight. i'll go right to it. health care is in your wheelhouse. you are the expert. he's going after you, your opponent's going after you on obama care. but you have been critical of health care in...
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will president obama play it safe and perhaps president obama go on the attack? questions and answerings coming up next. and every footstep should tell us we made the right decision. so when we can feel our way through the newest, softest, and most colorful options... ...across every possible price range... ...our budgets won't be picking the style. we will. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. right now get $37 basic installation on all special order carpet. i just wish it wouldn't fade away so fast. let me show you something. [ dr. rahmany ] as soon as you leave here... plaque quickly starts to grow back. but now there's a way to keep the clean longer. introducing new crest pro-health clinical rinse. it's a clinical breakthrough that actually keeps your teeth 91% clean of plaque at 2 months after a dental visit. plus, it gives you these key benefits. new crest pro-health clinical rinse. crest. life opens up when you do. also try new crest pro-health clinical plaque control toothpaste. [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's
will president obama play it safe and perhaps president obama go on the attack? questions and answerings coming up next. and every footstep should tell us we made the right decision. so when we can feel our way through the newest, softest, and most colorful options... ...across every possible price range... ...our budgets won't be picking the style. we will. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. right now get $37 basic installation on all special order carpet. i just wish...
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and obama's are much more evenly split. and very few people think that romney's policies are going to benefit the middle class. so this is a problem for him. you see in that ad where he talks about my policies, president obama and i both care about the middle class and the poor. that is not what people on the ground believe and i think that's attributed to the president's ad campaigns on the ground. i think it also is underscored by the 47% comments. but the other thing that was interesting here is in ohio, the president is leading mitt romney among women by 25 points. so, early on in the campaign all the talk we had about women's issues, the focus on women at the rnc and the dnc, that has clearly been a lasting problem for mitt romney, as well. a number from this poll, they asked who would be better on women's reproductive health issues, in ohio, the president led there by 29 points. so this has actually impacted quite significantly the campaign. >> if we take ohio as a microcosm for the country and say things have gone fr
and obama's are much more evenly split. and very few people think that romney's policies are going to benefit the middle class. so this is a problem for him. you see in that ad where he talks about my policies, president obama and i both care about the middle class and the poor. that is not what people on the ground believe and i think that's attributed to the president's ad campaigns on the ground. i think it also is underscored by the 47% comments. but the other thing that was interesting...
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mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >>> time for the gut check. we told you about american airlines accusing its pilots of slowing down passengers after a sudden increase of late and canceled flights. the pilots union denies the allegation. they blame the problem on a shortage of pilots and old planes. the next labor dispute just as the nfl refu situation is behin us. what does your gut tell us? are american airlines pilots helping or hurting their case? go to facebook.com/newsnation to vote. that does it for "news nation." i'm tamron hall. "the cycle" is up next. ♪ ♪ fly by night away from here ♪ ♪ change my life again ♪ ♪ fly by night, goodbye my dear ♪ ♪ my ship isn't coming ♪ and i just can't pretend oww! ♪ [ male announcer ] careful, you're no longer invisible in a midsize sedan. the volkswagen passat. the 2012 motor trend car of the year. that's the power
mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >>> time for the gut check. we told you about american airlines accusing its pilots of slowing down passengers after a sudden increase of late and canceled flights. the pilots union denies the allegation. they blame the problem on a shortage of pilots and old planes. the next labor dispute just as...
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president obama is due to address the u.s. general assembly on the defensive for not scheduling face-to-face meetings with foreign leaders. it is a scheduling issue and insist t insists the president speaks often with them and yesterday he sat down for an interview on "the view." >>> secretary hillary clinton is handling the bulk of diplomacy and met with mohamed morsi about strengthening ties and ensuring diplomatic security. remember, we reported yesterday president morsi had tough words about the united states. secretary clinton met with the presidents of libya, pakistan and to hold talks with benjamin netanyahu. yesterday in new york iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad looked to stoke an already tense situation in the middle east during his remarks at the general assembly. he declared that israel is bullying the united states over iran's alleged threat of a nuclear weapon. ahmadinejad said he's not worried about the threat of an attack on his country, the impact of international countries against his country are "not tha
president obama is due to address the u.s. general assembly on the defensive for not scheduling face-to-face meetings with foreign leaders. it is a scheduling issue and insist t insists the president speaks often with them and yesterday he sat down for an interview on "the view." >>> secretary hillary clinton is handling the bulk of diplomacy and met with mohamed morsi about strengthening ties and ensuring diplomatic security. remember, we reported yesterday president morsi...
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president obama lost the primary to hillary clinton. there's working class whites he struggled with. mitt romney is the capitalist who sent jobs overseas is a poor fit for the state as well. that's one of the things that's interesting to me. to that point, howard, i have another "60 minutes" clip to play for you and get your take on. >> is that fair to the guy who makes $50,000 and paid a higher rate than you do? >> it is a low rate. one of the reasons why the capital gains tax rate is lower is because capital has been taxed once at the corporate level, as high as 35%. >> so you think it is fair? >> yeah, i think it's the right way to encourage economic growth, to get people to invest, to start businesses, to put people to work. >> howard, there's mitt romney saying his 14% rate is perfectly fair, it's perfectly that it's lower than many middle class voters. this tax rate issue is a problem in ohio, isn't it? >> it really is. several weeks ago at the rel convention, i was talking to the republican pole ster that does a lot of focus grou
president obama lost the primary to hillary clinton. there's working class whites he struggled with. mitt romney is the capitalist who sent jobs overseas is a poor fit for the state as well. that's one of the things that's interesting to me. to that point, howard, i have another "60 minutes" clip to play for you and get your take on. >> is that fair to the guy who makes $50,000 and paid a higher rate than you do? >> it is a low rate. one of the reasons why the capital...
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but the current nationwide gallup daily tracking poll has president obama lead 50g% to 44%. again that, is a national poll. not terribly significant. romney spent most of the day in ohio trying to repair the damage from the hidden video comments about the 47%. despite his attacks against president obama's health care law, romney highlight the his own massachusetts health care reform as proof that he does care about all people. >> throughout this campaign as well, we've talked about my record in massachusetts. don't forget, i got everybody in my state insured. 100% of the kids in our state have health insurance. i don't think there is anything that shows more empathy and care about the people of this country than that kind of record. >> touting his own health care plan there in massachusetts to drive home the point campaign says it's new ads showing mr. romney talking straight to camera about the middle class will now replace all ads running in nine swing states. just hours after that ad was released, the democratic national committee countered with its own version. >> too ma
but the current nationwide gallup daily tracking poll has president obama lead 50g% to 44%. again that, is a national poll. not terribly significant. romney spent most of the day in ohio trying to repair the damage from the hidden video comments about the 47%. despite his attacks against president obama's health care law, romney highlight the his own massachusetts health care reform as proof that he does care about all people. >> throughout this campaign as well, we've talked about my...
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president obama is leading about the handling of taxes. president obama leads mr. romney on nearly every issue polled including standing up for the middle class, foreign policy and medicare. the only issue where romney has an advantage is on the budget and on federal spending where he leads 50 to 45. >>> in what's considered a bit of a preview for the upcoming debates, president obama and mitt romney were both asked about foreign policy in the middle east including about the u.s. relationship with israel. >> the president's decision not to meet with bebe netanyahu, the president of israel when he's here is a mistake and it sends a message throughout the middle east that somehow we distanced ourselves from our friends and i think the exact opposite approach is what's necessary. >> well look i have conversations with prime minister netanyahu all the time and i understand and share prime minister netanyahu's insincestence that they should not get a nuclear weapon. i feel an obligation not pressure but obligation to make sure that we're in close consultation with the i
president obama is leading about the handling of taxes. president obama leads mr. romney on nearly every issue polled including standing up for the middle class, foreign policy and medicare. the only issue where romney has an advantage is on the budget and on federal spending where he leads 50 to 45. >>> in what's considered a bit of a preview for the upcoming debates, president obama and mitt romney were both asked about foreign policy in the middle east including about the u.s....
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i just know i would rather be obama because obama has a lead, status quo. romney has to go in there feeling like he has to land some punches. obama just has to get out alive. >> michelle, in your latest article for the daily beast, you say that the stakes could not be higher as mike was saying for mr. romney. in fact, you say that unless mr. romney hits it out of the park on wednesday, his dreams of sitting in the oval office could be, i'm quoting you, deader than disco. couldn't he come back in week two, much as people like me who love nothing more than hearing the ojs or the temptations even today. >> it's not mee who thinks that denver is a do or die situation. we're talking about republicans who have been out there saying he really has to nail this. people have been waiting for him to have his break-through moment. there are very few opportunities going forward. republican donors and republican -- other elected officials are getting very nervous, and if he doesn't make a great showing in denver, it's going to be trouble for him, and the problem is his t
i just know i would rather be obama because obama has a lead, status quo. romney has to go in there feeling like he has to land some punches. obama just has to get out alive. >> michelle, in your latest article for the daily beast, you say that the stakes could not be higher as mike was saying for mr. romney. in fact, you say that unless mr. romney hits it out of the park on wednesday, his dreams of sitting in the oval office could be, i'm quoting you, deader than disco. couldn't he come...
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i want to see romney and obama the man. i want to see them -- you know, i can watch ads that put their platforms forward. i can read their websites. but i want to see them speak freely. i think most of america is hungry for that. >> maybe it would be fun to have them at the nerdland table. have a little longer on this show, 90 minutes. chat it up. that's not what they are like. they do have topics. they're going to go to colorado, the site of two major acts of gun violence and nobody is going to talk about that. should they be discussing that? >> they should be discussing that. a guy came up to me from new jersey and said, you know, it would be nice if we could do something like this around poverty like camden and detroit and a bunch of other places. it would be nice to hear mitt romney talk about how he helps the wealthy and middle class. what's his plan to get people out of poverty. >> this is the story behind the numbers. you can have unemployment and still have poverty because of the nature of wage stagnation. you were
i want to see romney and obama the man. i want to see them -- you know, i can watch ads that put their platforms forward. i can read their websites. but i want to see them speak freely. i think most of america is hungry for that. >> maybe it would be fun to have them at the nerdland table. have a little longer on this show, 90 minutes. chat it up. that's not what they are like. they do have topics. they're going to go to colorado, the site of two major acts of gun violence and nobody is...
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the obama ticket is actually outperforming them in those states. they've held about 29 events in that period compared to about 24 for the republicans. so, while there's a lot of calls for romney and paul ryan to be hitting the trail a little bit more, and to be doing a little bit less fund-raising, you're seeing exactly the opposite happening on the ground. so mitt romney spent yesterday in pennsylvania. that was not exactly a battleground state. they're not even running ads there right now. so it's a little bit of a head scratcher when you take a look at where they're spending their time. how they expect to pull this thing out. >> you know what's interesting about this, too, aimee is the president's came totally lowering expectations on the debate front. is there a theme, a general theme being struck by the president's team on all this? and how much debate prep is the president actually doing, given it's been a pretty busy cycle for him in terms of running things from 1600 pennsylvania avenue? >> well, yeah, they're saying he hasn't really had tim
the obama ticket is actually outperforming them in those states. they've held about 29 events in that period compared to about 24 for the republicans. so, while there's a lot of calls for romney and paul ryan to be hitting the trail a little bit more, and to be doing a little bit less fund-raising, you're seeing exactly the opposite happening on the ground. so mitt romney spent yesterday in pennsylvania. that was not exactly a battleground state. they're not even running ads there right now. so...
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barack obama is 6'1" and 175. romney is a little more plotting as a fighter, a little bit more mechanical. obama perhaps a little lighter but maybe not punching quite as hard. if you're looking for a fight scorecard, look at those metrics to start. one other thing that i think is important to remember in this. you talk about the advantage of presidency, but there's a disadvantage, which is a rhetorical strength barack obama didn't have the last time he debated. anything he says about a foreign country can be judged in diplomatic terms when he talks about issues and congress. these are blow up. he knows too much in a way and has to figure out how to bring back the knowledge set to what he says publicly both from a legal and sort of intelligence standpoint and also just from a good politicliolitical standpoi. >> he knows too much. >> jonathan, i think i can count on you to be objective with me. some would argue that obama has been given something of a pass on his record over the past year, and this might be the firs
barack obama is 6'1" and 175. romney is a little more plotting as a fighter, a little bit more mechanical. obama perhaps a little lighter but maybe not punching quite as hard. if you're looking for a fight scorecard, look at those metrics to start. one other thing that i think is important to remember in this. you talk about the advantage of presidency, but there's a disadvantage, which is a rhetorical strength barack obama didn't have the last time he debated. anything he says about a...
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even his call to repeal obama care is not particularly popular. given all that range of positions that he had to take in the primary and add to that being tarred with the brush of people like todd akin, chris co-back, and rush limbaugh and darrell issa. it's a huge problem dwroefr come. it's not easy to beat an incumbent president, and mitt romney is no ronald reagan or bill clinton. >> when you have an incumbent president with 8% unemployment, it's very difficult to win. romney has proven to be the worst candidate we've seen in perhaps 30, 40 years. i go back to steve's memory now when we get into 50, 60, 70 years. i agree with what's said including your points about mccain. if romney ran in '08 as he is now, obviously he did run in '08 and it didn't work out with him. one day we blame romney, and we've seen a lot of blame for romney throughout the campaign. one day blaming the polling and liberal media. i think that's a stretch. when do we look at the ideology and the difficult sell that is for the american people. when you have a party where th
even his call to repeal obama care is not particularly popular. given all that range of positions that he had to take in the primary and add to that being tarred with the brush of people like todd akin, chris co-back, and rush limbaugh and darrell issa. it's a huge problem dwroefr come. it's not easy to beat an incumbent president, and mitt romney is no ronald reagan or bill clinton. >> when you have an incumbent president with 8% unemployment, it's very difficult to win. romney has...
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obama will stay there for the next two days preparing for wednesday's debate. police say lindsay lo han was grabbed or maybe even thrown by a man who the actress brought back to her new york city hotel. he is now charged with harass. it was over cell phone pictures. now back to "caught on camera." >>> welcome back to "caught on camera." i'm contessa brewer. on a warm summer day, a rafting trip nearly turns fatal when beginners encounter a river, wild and swollen with snow melt. the rescue that follows is a high wire act and it's caught on not just one, but two cameras. novice rafters get the ride of a lifetime, and wind up cheating death. >> it was shocking to see the peril that these people were in. >> california's kearn river is a scenic, natural wonder and a popular play ground. >> one of the steepest rivers in the united states and it flows really fast. >> but the river has a dark side as well. one that keeps the rescue team at the kearn county sheriff's office busy. >> people go in and swim or fall in and they get tired fighting the current, and they drown
obama will stay there for the next two days preparing for wednesday's debate. police say lindsay lo han was grabbed or maybe even thrown by a man who the actress brought back to her new york city hotel. he is now charged with harass. it was over cell phone pictures. now back to "caught on camera." >>> welcome back to "caught on camera." i'm contessa brewer. on a warm summer day, a rafting trip nearly turns fatal when beginners encounter a river, wild and swollen...
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and for him to be successful, he must convince obama voters in massachusetts and obama is expected to win by double digits up there, to also vote for him, a republican. susan milligan is a contributing editor to "u.s. news & world report," and michael steele is the former chairman of the republican national committee, also an msnbc political analyst. i'm going to try to look at this down the middle. i saw the whole debate today. i was fascinated. i think david gregory did a hell of a job. like a referee in a boxing match. each candidate had a tough moment or two. here is warren tripped up, i think, when asked to name a republican she could work with. just name a senator or any bunch of them. here is what she said. let's watch. >> can you name some republicans in the senate today that you are able to work with on big issues, substantive issues, that the country faces? >> i think probably richard lugar would be one that would come to mind. >> he's not going to be there. >> he's not going to be there. >> who else could you name, senator? >> that is a problem. let me do this one -- let me
and for him to be successful, he must convince obama voters in massachusetts and obama is expected to win by double digits up there, to also vote for him, a republican. susan milligan is a contributing editor to "u.s. news & world report," and michael steele is the former chairman of the republican national committee, also an msnbc political analyst. i'm going to try to look at this down the middle. i saw the whole debate today. i was fascinated. i think david gregory did a hell...
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you look at romney, look at obama. do you see one who is using vulnerability better to make an impression on voters? >> what i -- you know what i see? i like to follow reaction to things like the conventions, to press conferences. what i see is that, you know, slick and shiny and overpromising does not play well anymore for us. i think we want people who stand -- i think we want to see ourselves reflected in our leaders. we want to see people who say, man, this is hard. there's no easy answers. i wish i could bs you into believing there were, but there are not. here is how i want to move forward, this is what i think is important. i think we're ready for some really deep authenticity, some realness, and we want to see leaders whose lives and struggles are reflected, you know. we want to see ourselves reflected in their stories and experiences. i think we're done. i think -- i really think, you know, ironically i started my research six months before 9/11, and so it's been a really powerful thing to watch kind of how th
you look at romney, look at obama. do you see one who is using vulnerability better to make an impression on voters? >> what i -- you know what i see? i like to follow reaction to things like the conventions, to press conferences. what i see is that, you know, slick and shiny and overpromising does not play well anymore for us. i think we want people who stand -- i think we want to see ourselves reflected in our leaders. we want to see people who say, man, this is hard. there's no easy...
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i said does obama like you? and there's a lot of people who are going to see that ad and say, i'm in that picture somewhere. i'm a veteran, i'm this kind of person, i'm that kind of person. am i in that list of 47%? the answer, i guess, is yes. >> well, the flip side of what chuck was talking about in terms of the still existent enthusiasm gap on the obama side, on the romney side i think mitt romney has kind of maxed out on the people who are going to vote for him because they're against obama. mitt romney's challenge in this upcoming debate and in the other debates is to show some sense of humanity and empathy that will get some people to vote for him on a positive basis. that's what's missing now. that's the 2% or 3% or 4% that he's missing that he's got to get. he's not going to get any more out of the anti-obama message. he's got to get it out of a pro-romney message, which is exactly why the obama campaign is running that ad that you just showed in colorado and in the other swing states. >> yeah. >> hey, a
i said does obama like you? and there's a lot of people who are going to see that ad and say, i'm in that picture somewhere. i'm a veteran, i'm this kind of person, i'm that kind of person. am i in that list of 47%? the answer, i guess, is yes. >> well, the flip side of what chuck was talking about in terms of the still existent enthusiasm gap on the obama side, on the romney side i think mitt romney has kind of maxed out on the people who are going to vote for him because they're against...
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. >>> president obama is in new york right now. he will address the united nations general assembly kicking off cha will be an extremely busy day for both candidates mixing policy and politics. but both the president's foreign policy and his schedule are coming under fire. he will not meet with a single world leader while the united nations is in session. that is a big break with tradition. instead, leaving secretary of the state hillary clinton with a nearly nonstop series of meetings including meeting with the leaders of afghanistan, egypt and pakistan. but the president did take an appearance on the talk show "the view." >> i just have a different vision about how we grow an economy. i think that you grow an economy from the middle out, not from the top down. >> and while the president took a shot at mitt romney over the economy, romney was hammering him over foreign policy. insisting the president's comments about bumps in the road in the middle east were out of line. >> these are developments we do not want to see. >> i want t
. >>> president obama is in new york right now. he will address the united nations general assembly kicking off cha will be an extremely busy day for both candidates mixing policy and politics. but both the president's foreign policy and his schedule are coming under fire. he will not meet with a single world leader while the united nations is in session. that is a big break with tradition. instead, leaving secretary of the state hillary clinton with a nearly nonstop series of meetings...
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obama, or romney? i won't embarrass you on wednesday if you're wrong. >> my guess is it will be dead even. >> thank you, steve, villa skype and chris. president obama up by 11 points in key swing states. the latest battleground map. plus, why a "new york times" article says as iowa goes, so may romney's chances of winning the white house. steve will return with that beautiful shot villa skype. in the next few hours, elizabeth warren and scott brown are going to face off again, second debate for them. and it comes as a new poll is out showing a mass shift in massachusetts. and joip our conversation on twitter. you can find us @tamronhall and @newsnation. this is my song pick of the day. [ male announcer ] your mouth is cleanest after a dentist visit. ♪ but between check-ups, it goes through a lot. ♪ tartar builds and that feeling fades. with new listerine® ultraclean™, you can keep it dentist clean. it's the only mouthwash with proven tartar control and new everfresh™ technology for a powerful
obama, or romney? i won't embarrass you on wednesday if you're wrong. >> my guess is it will be dead even. >> thank you, steve, villa skype and chris. president obama up by 11 points in key swing states. the latest battleground map. plus, why a "new york times" article says as iowa goes, so may romney's chances of winning the white house. steve will return with that beautiful shot villa skype. in the next few hours, elizabeth warren and scott brown are going to face off...
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he'll say obama is not running again bush. get obama to pass the buck on the tough kmeeconomic recovery land his sunday punch. i suppose president obama knows this is all coming and is preparing to do with it. a month ago all romney had to say was obama has done his best, got his stimulus, his health care program and here we are. i think that might have nailed it a month ago. but something's changed. it could be something as definite ace bill clinton's speech. that's romney's problem and it's a big one. "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >> good evening americans. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. 39 days until the 2012 election and five days until the first presidential debate. voter fraud is alive and healthy. tonight we rip the cover off the growing rnc voter suppression scandal. it's there. this is "the ed show," let's get to work. >> mitt romney and the rn
he'll say obama is not running again bush. get obama to pass the buck on the tough kmeeconomic recovery land his sunday punch. i suppose president obama knows this is all coming and is preparing to do with it. a month ago all romney had to say was obama has done his best, got his stimulus, his health care program and here we are. i think that might have nailed it a month ago. but something's changed. it could be something as definite ace bill clinton's speech. that's romney's problem and it's a...
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today the obama campaign sending first lady michelle obama on the trail to talk to supporters in cincinnati. >>> overseas, nato secretary-general says there is a possibility western forces could be withdrawn from afghanistan more quickly than previously planned. they suggested the deadly spike of insider attacks has hit the morale of foreign troops serving in the war zone. u.s. military officials say an attack on saturday that killed two americans was especially unnerving as several afghan soldiers and possibly insurgents opened fire from several directions. nbc's chief foreign correspondent, richard engel, has been covering this war for almost the full 11 years. he filed this report from kabul. >> reporter: this woman is about to die. executed for adultery. the man she was with got off scot-free. the taliban recently filmed this video of their justice as a warning and to say they're making a comeback. some 30 miles away in the village, we saw few signs of what the u.s. would consider progress in afghanistan and no evidence that the american plan to hand over to a credible, stable afghan go
today the obama campaign sending first lady michelle obama on the trail to talk to supporters in cincinnati. >>> overseas, nato secretary-general says there is a possibility western forces could be withdrawn from afghanistan more quickly than previously planned. they suggested the deadly spike of insider attacks has hit the morale of foreign troops serving in the war zone. u.s. military officials say an attack on saturday that killed two americans was especially unnerving as several...